ORGANIC GARDENING HELP NEEDED: TABLE SALT vs. TORCHING?

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  • ye_river_xiv

    Salt will ruin the soil for anything for years to come.

    Copper sulfate is just as effective at killing, but won’t damage the soil for quite as long. If you can find a supplier, it is a much cheaper solution.

    Be aware that you need at least a few hours of dry weather after you put any kind of poison onto a plant for it to be effective. In Hawaii, that can be difficult to get.

    Also, roundup comes in three kinds: One is for killing grasses, one is for killing broadleaf plants. One is supposed to kill everything. You might not have used the right kind.

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  • ohiorganic

    Salt, gas, etc.. might work to kill the vine but these things will end up doing more harm than good to the rest of your garden. Gasoline is illegal to pour on the soil, you can be fined and told to remediate the soil which will cost thousands of dollars. But the remediation would likely dig up the vine, roots and all.

    Torches are only good for annual weeds that are young and small, they do not deal with plants such as this gourd vine-way too big.

    The best thing to do is hire some one with a strong back to dig up the vine’s roots or keep chopping it off at ground level and eventually it will die, though this will take several years to do (but it won’t be vining everywhere and will be essentially invisible if you keep hacking it back)

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  • Nancy S (om Samir)

    Depends on the plant, some vines as they lay on the ground put out sucker roots making it that much harder to kill. Do not use salt, salt has traditionally been used to make the soil unuseable for years.

    I have heard that pure vinegar (the stronger strengths) can kill. I have used vinegar (canning strength 9% acid) to kill weeds on the edge of the sidewalk.

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  • goldwing

    gasoline will do it in. Not very eco friendly, but deadly to plants and bugs.
    Very close mowing will keep it under control and may kill it eventually.
    do not use salt…will prevent nice plants from growing for quite a while.

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  • Auntie A

    Contact your Master Gardeners on Ohau for some advise.

    What are you planning to do after you kill the weeds? If you are planning to plant something else, I would not use salt. Torching would be better – just be very careful.

    If you have used roundup already, then you would need to wait to replant. Just for information, there is a stronger roundup for ivy’s. Anything with ivy in the name is hard to get rid of. (But then you have to let the ground sit before replanting.)

    It is best if you can just dig it out and dig it out again when it comes back. With enough persistance, you can get rid of it.

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  • Garbos Autograph

    Hi there! I am from hawaii though I may not look like it…North Shore Pupukea/Kaneohe/Kawwaa. I recommend calling the department of Agriculture there …..I workded in one in idaho….and wegott all kinds of questions from elephant garlic to sage and so forth….they are kind and help the public at large with their questions regarding the sowing, reaping and so forth that you might need to know inthe event that you do not find what you are looking for here! They are in the phone book! They are extremely approachable…..and it helps them too configure what is happening and they will give to u the safest measures of how to do what you are asking…if I knew I would certainly tell you!!!

    N.N. aka Garbo

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  • eskimo pie

    i would go for the torch rather than salt which can bleed into other plants and stay in the soil. another good way to get rid of nasty plants is to pour boiling water over them. take out your electric kettle and an extention cord and fill it as many times as you need to from the hose. it will harm only the plants you want out and leaves no residue.

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ORGANIC GARDENING HELP NEEDED: TABLE SALT vs. TORCHING?

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  • Auntie A

    Contact your Master Gardeners on Ohau for some advise.

    What are you planning to do after you kill the weeds? If you are planning to plant something else, I would not use salt. Torching would be better – just be very careful.

    If you have used roundup already, then you would need to wait to replant. Just for information, there is a stronger roundup for ivy’s. Anything with ivy in the name is hard to get rid of. (But then you have to let the ground sit before replanting.)

    It is best if you can just dig it out and dig it out again when it comes back. With enough persistance, you can get rid of it.

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  • goldwing

    gasoline will do it in. Not very eco friendly, but deadly to plants and bugs.
    Very close mowing will keep it under control and may kill it eventually.
    do not use salt…will prevent nice plants from growing for quite a while.

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  • ye_river_xiv

    Salt will ruin the soil for anything for years to come.

    Copper sulfate is just as effective at killing, but won’t damage the soil for quite as long. If you can find a supplier, it is a much cheaper solution.

    Be aware that you need at least a few hours of dry weather after you put any kind of poison onto a plant for it to be effective. In Hawaii, that can be difficult to get.

    Also, roundup comes in three kinds: One is for killing grasses, one is for killing broadleaf plants. One is supposed to kill everything. You might not have used the right kind.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • ohiorganic

    Salt, gas, etc.. might work to kill the vine but these things will end up doing more harm than good to the rest of your garden. Gasoline is illegal to pour on the soil, you can be fined and told to remediate the soil which will cost thousands of dollars. But the remediation would likely dig up the vine, roots and all.

    Torches are only good for annual weeds that are young and small, they do not deal with plants such as this gourd vine-way too big.

    The best thing to do is hire some one with a strong back to dig up the vine’s roots or keep chopping it off at ground level and eventually it will die, though this will take several years to do (but it won’t be vining everywhere and will be essentially invisible if you keep hacking it back)

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Nancy S (om Samir)

    Depends on the plant, some vines as they lay on the ground put out sucker roots making it that much harder to kill. Do not use salt, salt has traditionally been used to make the soil unuseable for years.

    I have heard that pure vinegar (the stronger strengths) can kill. I have used vinegar (canning strength 9% acid) to kill weeds on the edge of the sidewalk.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Garbos Autograph

    Hi there! I am from hawaii though I may not look like it…North Shore Pupukea/Kaneohe/Kawwaa. I recommend calling the department of Agriculture there …..I workded in one in idaho….and wegott all kinds of questions from elephant garlic to sage and so forth….they are kind and help the public at large with their questions regarding the sowing, reaping and so forth that you might need to know inthe event that you do not find what you are looking for here! They are in the phone book! They are extremely approachable…..and it helps them too configure what is happening and they will give to u the safest measures of how to do what you are asking…if I knew I would certainly tell you!!!

    N.N. aka Garbo

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  • eskimo pie

    i would go for the torch rather than salt which can bleed into other plants and stay in the soil. another good way to get rid of nasty plants is to pour boiling water over them. take out your electric kettle and an extention cord and fill it as many times as you need to from the hose. it will harm only the plants you want out and leaves no residue.

    Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

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